Now that we have Species Opinions and Annexation, it would be interesting to have Traits relative to that.
'Asabiyyah (Arabic: عصبيّة) is the concept used by Ibn Khaldun to analyze cohesion of polities, or their decohesion.
So, Good 'Asabiyyah would rise the cost of Annexation, while Bad 'Asabiyyah would lower it.
It's even possible to have 'Asabiyyah multiply the effects of Policies on Opinions.
Yes, I know that this would multiply with the effect on Annexation cost itself, but imho that's a feature, not a bug.
From what I understand, Homeworlds do not have a specific impact on the Annexation formula.
And I think that for game diversity, it would be interesting that they do.
So I would propose that 'Asabiyyah multiply the difference in Opinion between the two Empires when annexing a Homeworld, and have that be reduced from the Annexation cost (so if the difference is negative, it is actually added to it).
That way, good 'Asabiyyah Species would swing more easily if you please them, but less if you displease them.
It's also possible to have 'Asabiyyah multiply the Species Opinion (the one strictly based on Policies, else there would be balance problems) and apply the result as a percentage modifier on the focused production on the planet (whatever it is - wouldn't work for Starlane travel of course, nor for Growth).
Species Opinion usually range (when based on Policies alone) between -8 and +8 (and most usually between -4 and +4) so a range of -16% to +16% to focused production doesn't seem unbalanced to me (especially since that's the extreme case, most of the time it would be +/-6%).
And yes, that formula would mean that you'd want Good 'Asabiyyah Species if you're going to please them (you want their loyalty) but you'd prefer Bad 'Asabiyyah Species if you're going to go against their will (you want to divide them so as to rule them against their will).
Imho it makes for interesting choices...
Note that it's possible to modify this formula so that Average 'Asabiyyah doesn't bring any modificators to the Production or Homeworld Annexation cost, if that's what you prefer.
'Asabiyyah (Arabic: عصبيّة) is the concept used by Ibn Khaldun to analyze cohesion of polities, or their decohesion.
So, Good 'Asabiyyah would rise the cost of Annexation, while Bad 'Asabiyyah would lower it.
It's even possible to have 'Asabiyyah multiply the effects of Policies on Opinions.
Yes, I know that this would multiply with the effect on Annexation cost itself, but imho that's a feature, not a bug.
From what I understand, Homeworlds do not have a specific impact on the Annexation formula.
And I think that for game diversity, it would be interesting that they do.
So I would propose that 'Asabiyyah multiply the difference in Opinion between the two Empires when annexing a Homeworld, and have that be reduced from the Annexation cost (so if the difference is negative, it is actually added to it).
That way, good 'Asabiyyah Species would swing more easily if you please them, but less if you displease them.
It's also possible to have 'Asabiyyah multiply the Species Opinion (the one strictly based on Policies, else there would be balance problems) and apply the result as a percentage modifier on the focused production on the planet (whatever it is - wouldn't work for Starlane travel of course, nor for Growth).
Species Opinion usually range (when based on Policies alone) between -8 and +8 (and most usually between -4 and +4) so a range of -16% to +16% to focused production doesn't seem unbalanced to me (especially since that's the extreme case, most of the time it would be +/-6%).
And yes, that formula would mean that you'd want Good 'Asabiyyah Species if you're going to please them (you want their loyalty) but you'd prefer Bad 'Asabiyyah Species if you're going to go against their will (you want to divide them so as to rule them against their will).
Imho it makes for interesting choices...
Note that it's possible to modify this formula so that Average 'Asabiyyah doesn't bring any modificators to the Production or Homeworld Annexation cost, if that's what you prefer.
Statistics: Posted by LienRag — Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:18 am